Demos Info


[1985.03.XX] Willie Basse studio GNR rehearsal #4

--Info--
Recorded: 21st or 22nd March 1985
Studio: Willie Basse's studio [Willpower Studios]
Type: Rehearsal + Radio Interview

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March 1985 radio interview cassette
Best sounding unofficial source -- Raz Cue 21st or 22nd March 1985 radio interview cassette
Official release ----------------- N/A

--Tracklist--
01. Don't Cry --------- [Cut] -------------------------- (01:37)
02. Anything Goes ----- [Band introductions] ----------- (04:39)
03. Think About You --- [Cut] -------------------------- (01:48)
04. Heartbreak Hotel -- [MISSING, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] -- (XX:XX)
05. Full rehearsal ---- [+ Interview] ------------------ (16:58)
Total playtime: 25:02

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Tracii Guns --- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Rob Gardner ---- Drums

--Additional info--
・First ever radio interview by Guns N' Roses in 1985.
・"Heartbreak Hotel" is confirmed to have been rehearsed in the interview, although maybe not in this exact rehearsal.
・The interviewer for KPFK was DJ Hope.
・The songs they play was recorded right off the mixing board according to Raz.
・Tracii's mom recorded the show on cassette and gave a copy to Raz, which he then uploaded to YouTube in 2018.


[1985.08.XX] Mystic Studio Demos

--Info--
Recorded: August 1985
Studio: Mystic Sound Studios
Type: Demo tape recording

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Second Take Demos
Best sounding unofficial source -- Izzy Stranded tape
Official release ----------------- Locked N' Loaded Hidden Cassette

--Tracklist--
01 - Welcome To The Jungle ------------------------------ (04:57)
02 - Anything Goes -------------------------------------- (05:07)
03 - Don't Cry ------------------------------------------ (04:41)
04 - Back Off Bitch ------------------------------------- (04:48)
05 - Think About You ------------------------------------ (03:57)
06 - Heartbreak Hotel -- [MISSING, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] -- (XX:XX)
Total playtime: 23:30

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Slash --------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Steven Adler --- Drums

--Additional Info--
・Guns N' Roses' first ever demo session as the original lineup.
・"Think About You" sounds a bit different but it's from the same session.


[1986.XX.XX] Pasha Studios

--Info--
Recorded: August or October 1986
Studio: Pasha Studios
Type: Demo session / Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide recording session

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Metal Petals
Best sounding unofficial source -- Metal Petals [Tracks 01-02, 11-13] The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes [Tracks 03-10]
Official release ----------------- Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide [Tracks 05, 09-11] It's So Easy 12" [Tracks 07] Live From The Jungle [Tracks 07] Locked N' Loaded [Tracks 05, 09-11]

--Tracklist--
01 - Sweet Child O' Mine -- [Alternate Intro] -- (06:17)
02 - Nightrain ------------ [Alternate Intro] -- (05:03)
03 - Jumpin' Jack Flash ------------------------ (03:27)
04 - You're Crazy ------------------------------ (03:32)
05 - Reckless Life ----------------------------- (03:06)
06 - Heartbreak Hotel -------------------------- (04:12)
07 - Shadow Of Your Love ----------------------- (02:56)
08 - Welcome To The Jungle --------------------- (04:57)
09 - Move To The City -------------------------- (03:22)
10 - Mama Kin ---------------------------------- (03:38)
11 - Nice Boys --------------------------------- (02:58)
12 - Mr. Brownstone ---------------------------- (04:02)
13 - Don't Cry --------------------------------- (05:12)
Total playtime: 52:42

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Slash ---------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Steven Adler --- Drums

--Additional Info--
・"Sweet Child O' Mine" is produced by Spencer Proffer.
・"Nightrain" is produced by Spencer Proffer
・"Reckless Life" was released on "Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide" with overdubbed crowdnoise.
・"Move to the City" was released on "Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide" with overdubbed crowdnoise.
・"Mama Kin" was released on "Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide" with overdubbed crowdnoise.
・"Nice Boys" was released on "Live ?!*@ Like a Suicide" with overdubbed crowdnoise.


[1986.06.XX] Sound City Sessions

--Info--
Recorded: June 4-5 1986, other sources say June 2-4.
Studio: Sound City Sessions
Type: Demo session

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Welcome to the Sessions [All tracks except track 03, 31-33 & uncirculated], .44 Horticulture [Track 03], N/A [Tracks 24, 31-33, Take #1 or take #2 of "Nice Boys"]
Best sounding unofficial source -- The Story Vol. I [Tracks 01-02, 04-07, 15, 17, 20, 22], The Hell Revisited [Tracks 03, 12, 16], Welcome to the Sessions [Tracks 10-11, 14, 23, 25-26, 28-29], The Alan Niven 1986 Master Tapes [Track 21], Rumbo Tapes [Track 30], N/A [Tracks 24, Take #1 or take #2 of "Nice Boys"]
Official release ----------------- Locked N' Loaded [Tracks 01-02, 04-08, 10-12, 14-16, 20-23, 25-26, 28-33], The Very Best Of Guns N' Roses (unreleased compilation album) [Track 16], Live And Let Die CDS [Track 12], American 80's Hair Metal [Take #1 or take #2 of "Nice Boys"], The Many Faces Of Guns N' Roses [Take #1 or take #2 of "Nice Boys"], Hollywood Rocks! [Track 24], N/A [Track 17]

--Tracklist--
01 - Out Ta Get Me ---------- [Take #1] ----------------------------------------- (04:00)
02 - Rocket Queen ----------- [Take #1] ----------------------------------------- (06:05)
03 - Rocket Queen ----------- [Take #2] ----------------------------------------- (06:17)
04 - Nightrain ------------------------------------------------------------------ (04:57)
05 - My Michelle ---------------------------------------------------------------- (04:24)
06 - You're Crazy --------------------------------------------------------------- (03:43)
07 - Paradise City -------------------------------------------------------------- (05:41)
08 - Move To The City ------- [Take #1] ----------------------------------------- (03:25)
09 - Move To The City ------- [Take #2, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------- (03:25)
10 - November Rain ---------- [Acoustic] ---------------------------------------- (05:06)
11 - November Rain ---------- [Piano] ------------------------------------------- (09:43)
12 - Shadow Of Your Love ---- [Take #1] ----------------------------------------- (02:47)
13 - Shadow Of Your Love ---- [Take #2, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------- (XX:XX)
14 - Reckless Life -------------------------------------------------------------- (02:49)
15 - Think About You ------------------------------------------------------------ (04:09)
16 - Welcome to the Jungle ------------------------------------------------------ (05:00)
17 - Don't Cry ------------------------------------------------------------------ (05:36)
18 - Nice Boys -------------- [Take #1, DOES NOT CIRCULATE, SESSION UNCERTAIN] -- (XX:XX)
19 - Nice Boys -------------- [Take #2, DOES NOT CIRCULATE, SESSION UNCERTAIN] -- (XX:XX)
20 - Nice Boys -------------- [Take #3] ----------------------------------------- (03:09)
21 - Back Off Bitch ------------------------------------------------------------- (04:49)
22 - Anything Goes ---------- [Alternate lyrics] -------------------------------- (04:33)
23 - Mama Kin ------------------------------------------------------------------- (03:43)
24 - Heartbreak Hotel ------- [Take #1, SESSION UNCERTAIN] ---------------------- (04:20)
25 - Heartbreak Hotel ------- [Take #2] ----------------------------------------- (04:46)
26 - Ain't Goin' Down ------- [Instrumental, AKA "Meet & Beer Jam"] ------------- (03:41)
27 - Jumpin' Jack Flash ----- [Take #1, electric, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] ----------- (02:49)
28 - Jumpin' Jack Flash ----- [Take #2, electric] ------------------------------- (03:29)
29 - Jumpin' Jack Flash ----- [Acoustic] ---------------------------------------- (03:46)
30 - Move to the City ------- [Acoustic, AKA "Booze Party"] --------------------- (03:46)
31 - New Work Tune -------------------------------------------------------------- (03:25)
32 - You're Crazy ------------[Acoustic] ---------------------------------------- (04:06)
33 - The Plague ----------------------------------------------------------------- (00:54)
34 - Cornshucker Stomp ------ [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] ------------------------------ (XX:XX)
Total playtime: 02:01:25

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Slash --------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Steven Adler --- Drums

--Additional Info--
・"Out Ta Get Me" [Take #1] might be the only take. Any additional takes are not known to exist but the track is titled "Take #1".
・"Nice Boys" appear on "American 80's Hair Metal" & "The Many Faces Of Guns N' Roses" but it is unknown if it's take #1 or take #2.
・"Move To The City" [Acoustic] is also known as "Booze Party" by bootleggers.
・"Ain't Goin' Down" [Instrumental] is also known as "Meet & Beer Jam" by bootleggers.
・"New Work Tune" was previously known as "Untitled Song In Progress" and was uncirculated before Locked N' Loaded.
・"You're Crazy" [Acoustic] was uncirculated before Locked N' Loaded.
・"The Plague" was uncirculated before Locked N' Loaded.


[1986.XX.XX] Hell House Demos

--Info--
Recorded: September 1986 - Early 1987 (Time of the Hell House)
Studio: Hell House (Slash talks about Del James having an old tape recorder or four track in his bedroom there)
Type: Jam session

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Second Take Demos [Tracks 01-03, 07-09, 14], The Hell Revisited [Tracks 15-17]
Best sounding unofficial source -- The Story Vol. I [Tracks 01-03, 07-09, 14], The Hell Revisited [Tracks 15-17]
Official release ----------------- N/A

--Tracklist--
01 - Crash Diet --------------------------------------------------------------------- (04:52)
02 - The Garden --------------------------------------------------------------------- (05:05)
03 - Too Much Too Fast ------------- [Correct title according to West Arkeen tape] -- (06:30)
04 - Sunny Lovers Day -------------- [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------------- (XX:XX)
05 - Walk On By -------------------- [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------------- (XX:XX)
06 - Martyr Of The 20th Century ---- [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------------- (XX:XX)
07 - Bad Obsession ----------------- [Izzy Stradlin on vocals] ---------------------- (05:02)
08 - Just Another Sunday ------------------------------------------------------------ (04:35)
09 - Bring It Down Home ------------ [Correct title according to West Arkeen tape] -- (05:44)
10 - Sentimental Movie ------------- [Duff Mckagan on vocals] ----------------------- (04:43)
11 - Second Time Loser ------------- [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------------- (XX:XX)
12 - Drinkin ----------------------- [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------------- (XX:XX)
13 - Make Your Play ---------------- [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] --------------------------- (XX:XX)
14 - Yesterdays --------------------------------------------------------------------- (03:40)
15 - Crash Diet -------------------- [Alternate mix] -------------------------------- (04:27)
16 - Drum Machine Instrumental #1 --------------------------------------------------- (03:32)
17 - Drum Machine Instrumental #2 --------------------------------------------------- (03:34)
18 - It's So Easy ------------------ [Acoustic, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] ----------------- (XX:XX)
Total playtime: 51:48

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Vocals [Tracks 01-03, 08-09, 14-15]
Izzy Stradlin -- Vocals [Track 07]
Duff McKagan --- Vocals [Track 10]
[It is unknown who's playing the instruments on these demos]

--Additional info--
・Uncirculated & unheard tracks could be West Arkeen's own tracks, without Axl singing on them.
・They used a drum machine, possibly because they didn't have drums set up in the Hell House.
・"Too Much Too Fast" also known as "Too Much Too Soon".
・Axl said in a 2008 QnA session that "Crash Diet" was "Somethin・done with Wes and his friend and more about their guitars than Guns".
・"Just Another Sunday" is not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same session because it's in the intro for "Bring It Down Home".
・"Bring It Down Home" is also known as "Bring It Back Home".
・The intro for "Yesterdays" is the same or a similiar riff to Velvet Revolver's "Fall To Pieces".
・"Crash Diet" alternate mix is not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably remixed from the same track.
・"Drum Machine Instrumental #1" is not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same drum machine sessions. Same or a similiar riff was used for Slash's Snakepit's "Speed Parade".
・"Drum Machine Instrumental #2" is an early "The Garden" song sketch, not from West Arkeen Tape, but presumably from same drum machine sessions.
・"It's So Easy" is originally from West Arkeen sessions, written on acoustic guitars.
・"Crash Diet" was released on Asphalt Ballet's 1993 album "Pigs".
・"Crash Diet" was released on WildSide's 2004 album "Wasted Years".
・"Walk On By" was released on The Outpatience's "Anxious Disease" in 1999.


[1987.07.29] Take One Studio

--Info--
Recorded: July 29 1987
Studio: Take One Studios
Type: GN'R Lies recording session

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- The Alan Niven Lies Sessions [Tracks 01, 03-04]
Best sounding unofficial source -- The Alan Niven Lies Sessions
Official release ----------------- Locked N' Loaded [Track 02] Welcome To The Jungle CDS [Track 02]

--Tracklist--
01 - One In A Million ---------------- [Alt. take] ----------------------------- (06:34)
02 - You're Crazy -------------------- [Alt. take, date and studio uncertain] -- (04:28)
03 - Used To Love Her & Cornshucker -- [Alt. take] ----------------------------- (05:51)
04 - Jumpin' Jack Flash -------------- [Acoustic, DOES NOT CIRCULATE] ---------- (XX:XX)
Total playtime: 16:53

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Slash ---------- Acoustic guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Acoustic guitar, vocals
Duff McKagan --- Acoustic guitar, vocals
[It is unknown if Steven was present during this session]

--Additional Info--
・"Alt. take" meaning it's an alternate take from the "GN'R Lies" album version.
・"One In A Million" is from an unknown session, but it seems it could have been recorded at this one.
・"Used To Love Her & Cornshucker" is from an unknown session, but it seems it could have been recorded at this one.
・The final version of "Patience" was recorded during this session.
・"You're Crazy" appears in "Locked N' Loaded".
・"Jumpin' Jack Flash" was mentioned in an August 1987 interview, might be from Take One session or separate session.


[1989.12.06] Mates Rehearsal Studios

--Info--
Recorded: December 06, 1989
Studio: Mates Rehearsal Studios
Type: Rehearsal session

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- CASS(1)
Best sounding unofficial source -- Studio Mixing Board>Cass(M)>Cass(1) (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5 & two small dropouts fixed)
Official release ----------------- N/A

--Tracklist--
01 - Don't Damn Me --- [Instrumental take #1] -- (05:21)
02 - Don't Damn Me --- [Instrumental take #2] -- (04:57)
03 - Garden Of Eden -- [Instrumental] ---------- (03:13)
04 - Locomotive ------ [Instrumental] ---------- (05:14)
05 - Dust N' Bones --- [Duff on vocals] -------- (05:11)
06 - Bad Apples ------ [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] ---- (XX:XX)
07 - Coma ------------ [DOES NOT CIRCULATE] ---- (XX:XX)

--Personnel--
Slash ---------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Steven Adler --- Drums

--Additional Info--
・Instrumental session without Axl.
・Steven was still in the band.
・Some people claim to have a more complete version of this tape including "Bad Apples".
・Some people claim to have a more complete version of this tape including "Coma".


[1990.XX.XX] Civil War Sessions

--Info--
Recorded: April-June 1990
Studio: Unknown
Type: Demo session

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Ultra Rare Trax Vol. VI
Best sounding unofficial source -- Utra Rare Trax Vol. VI (Notch Filtered 1728 @ Q18.5)
Official release ----------------- N/A

--Tracklist--
01 - Civil War -- [Instrumental] -------- (07:14)
02 - Civil War -- [Overdubbed version] -- (07:07)
Total playtime: 14:21

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals [Track 02]
Slash ---------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Steven Adler --- Drums

--Additional Info--
・The overdubbed version is a vocal track on the instrumental.


[1990.09.21] Record Plant Studios

--Info--
Recorded: September 21, 1990
Studio: Record Plant Recording Studios
Type: Instrumental Rough Mixes

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Ruffs w/ New Slash GTR DAT
Best sounding unofficial source -- Ruffs w/ New Slash GTR DAT
Official release ----------------- N/A

--Tracklist--
01 - Estranged --------------- [Instrumental] -- (09:27)
02 - Locomotive -------------- [Instrumental] -- (08:30)
03 - Breakdown --------------- [Instrumental] -- (07:13)
04 - The Garden -------------- [Instrumental] -- (05:09)
05 - Black Leather ----------- [Instrumental] -- (03:46)
06 - I Don't Care About You -- [Instrumental] -- (02:09)
07 - Attitude ---------------- [Instrumental] -- (01:37)
08 - New Rose ---------------- [Instrumental] -- (02:40)
09 - 14 Years ---------------------------------- (05:18)
Total playtime: 45:54

--Personnel--
Slash ---------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Matt Sorum ----- Drums

--Additional Info--
・ "14 Years" has Alternate lyrics & an alternate outro, with Izzy on vocals & "Duff's new bass".


[1990.12.16] Record Plant Studios

--Info--
Recorded: December 16, 1990 - January 16, 1991, cassette says January 18, 1991
Studio: Record Plant Recording Studios
Type: Q-Sound Mixes Experimental Versions

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- GN'R Mixes DAT
Best sounding unofficial source -- GN'R Mixes DAT
Official release ----------------- Use Your Illusion I & II [Original Mixes], Don't Cry CDS [Tracks 19 & 21]

--Tracklist--
01 - November Rain -------- [Original Mix] -------------------- (09:05)
02 - November Rain -------- [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (08:52)
03 - Live And Let Die ----- [Original Mix] -------------------- (03:00)
04 - Live And Let Die ----- [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (03:00)
05 - Estranged ------------ [Original Mix] -------------------- (09:23)
06 - Estranged ------------ [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (09:23)
07 - Double Talkin' Jive -- [Original Mix] -------------------- (03:20)
08 - Double Talkin' Jive -- [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (03:20)
09 - You Ain't The First -- [Original Mix, alternate take] ---- (02:30)
10 - You Ain't The First -- [Q Sound Mix, alternate take] ----- (02:30)
11 - Yesterdays ----------- [Original Mix] -------------------- (03:11)
12 - Yesterdays ----------- [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (03:09)
13 - Pretty Tied Up ------- [Original Mix, extended outro] ---- (05:21)
14 - Pretty Tied Up ------- [Q Sound Mix, extended outro] ----- (05:21)
15 - You Could Be Mine ---- [Original Mix] -------------------- (05:42)
16 - You Could Be Mine ---- [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (05:42)
17 - Bad Apples ----------- [Original Mix] -------------------- (04:28)
18 - Bad Apples ----------- [Q Sound Mix] --------------------- (04:28)
19 - Don't Cry ------------ [Original lyrics, Original Mix] --- (04:43)
20 - Don't Cry ------------ [Original Lyrics, Q Sound Mix] ---- (04:44)
21 - Don't Cry ------------ [Alternate lyrics, Original Mix] -- (04:44)
22 - Don't Cry ------------ [Alternate Lyrics, Q Sound Mix] --- (04:42)
Total playtime: 01:50:38

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Slash ---------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Matt Sorum ----- Drums

--Additional Info--
・Session produced by Mike Clink.


[1990-1991] Axl's Advance Copy

--Info--
Recorded: 1990-1991
Studio: Unknown
Type: Rough Mixes

--Source--
Original unofficial source ------- Axl's Advance Tape [Tracks 01-02, 10], Metal Petals (Live & Demos) [Tracks 09, 11, 13], Axl's Advance Copy [Tracks 03-08, 12, 14]
Best sounding unofficial source -- Axl's Advance Tape [Tracks 01-02, 10], Metal Petals (Live & Demos) [Tracks 09, 11, 13], Axl's Advance Copy [Tracks 03-08, 12, 14]
Official release ----------------- N/A

--Tracklist--
01 - Ain't Goin' Down --------------------------------------- (05:09)
02 - Get In The Ring -- [Instrumental, bridge lyrics only] -- (05:14)
03 - Dust N' Bones ------------------------------------------ (04:59)
04 - Bad Obsession ------------------------------------------ (05:30)
05 - Back Off Bitch ----------------------------------------- (04:51)
06 - Double Talkin' Jive ------------------------------------ (03:21)
07 - November Rain ------------------------------------------ (09:00)
08 - The Garden --------------------------------------------- (05:21)
09 - Garden Of Eden ----------------------------------------- (02:50)
10 - Don't Damn Me ---- [Alternate vocal track] ------------- (05:22)
11 - Bad Apples --------------------------------------------- (04:32)
12 - Dead Horse --------------------------------------------- (04:23)
13 - Coma ------------- [Without quotes] -------------------- (10:19)
14 - Civil War ---------------------------------------------- (07:30)
Total playtime: 01:18:29

--Personnel--
Axl Rose ------- Lead vocals
Slash ---------- Lead guitar
Izzy Stradlin -- Rhythm guitar
Duff McKagan --- Bass
Matt Sorum ----- Drums
[Steven Adler possibly played drums on "Civil War"]

--Additional Info--
・Rough mixes of album versions, maybe from various studio sessions.
・Bootleg with unknown sources. Most likely from some DAT that was sold to a fan that made boots under the title "Axl's Advance Copy".


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